Does anyone know where I can get a baby wipe from Seventh Generation?
http://www.seventhgeneration.com/our_products/baby/baby_wipes.html
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crj
20 yrs ago
I've seen 7th Generation at CitySuper - but only sometimes. You can order online from the USA.
We use cloth nappies, but used 7th Generation when baby was a newborn. We like their products.
But if you are looking for eco-wipes, you can make your own - with cloth and water or cotton pads and water.
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I buy 7th Generation detergent from City Super but they don't sell baby wipes. I supppose we'll be using a lot of wipes, and ordering it from overseas would be a bit costly? I suppose I can make my own, but I wonder if it would be too cumbersome...
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crj
20 yrs ago
The first few weeks, you will probably just use cotton and water. Some people use that for months, but my husband noticed that bits of cotton fluff were sticking on our son in various places so he didn't like that anymore.
Now we use three things:
1. wash him under the tap in the sink
2. Kirkland Baby Wipes we buy from Gateway (across from WingOn), they don't have any scent
3. Wellcome First Choice wipes - the small packs for the diaper bag, also no smell
4. a damp muslin cloth
I know that Sophie from Doubibou makes her own wipes - basically damp wash cloths, she says it is easy.
The first 6 weeks, the baby poos soooo much, we didn't consider it, but after that he poo-d a lot less and the sink method really works for us.
We use the sink mostly in the daytime, and the wipes at night and when we are out. We also started solids recently, so use the wipes when he poos, as they are needed!!
Good luck! Have been reading your posts for a long time, it is great you are almost there :)
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if you are at home, using water and cotton balls will be best to clean your baby's bottom as some wet wipes can cause irritation. use wet wipes when you are out for convenience.
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oh agree with crj, the sink is best for cleaning poo off when they are older!
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crj
20 yrs ago
Here is the link to the Doubibou cloth wipes:
http://www.doubibou.com/diapers/dbbwipes.html
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I'm sure I saw 7th Generation wipes at Bumps to Babes the last time...
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Hi everyone,
Thank you very much for all your replies!!! I guess I'll try different things until we settle down with something that fits our baby. Washing in the sink is probably the best from the baby's perspective....We'll see! Thanks again. Please let me know if anyone finds organic shop that carries organic baby (disposable!) wipes.
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Mummy, that's true...I guess with my baby being a girl, I need to be careful with infection as well. Do you think adding tea tree oil or something to the cool boiled water would help or would irritate the skin???
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the washing in the sink thing is for when the bub is bigger and not too fragile....
maybe what you can do is for pooing, use wet wipes for the initial wipes and then finish off with cotton and water....that way your baby's bottom won't become too raw from the constant use of wet wipes...
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crj
20 yrs ago
That is what we do.
If it is just a wee, we wash in the sink. We only started that at about 3-4 months old, now at 6 months he loves it.
If it is a poo, we use wipes, then rinse in the sink.
But the first 3-4 weeks, we only used the cotton squares (mentioned above, they are also available in ParkNShop) and water - just tap water.
Then sometimes between then and 6-8 weeks we were using cotton sometimes and wipes other times.
Then we slowly graduated to wipes and the sink combination.
When baby was only breast fed the poo was always runny and soft and easy to get off. Now baby is still breast fed, but also eating solids so the poo is sticky and harder (sometimes like peanut butter sticky, other times like cat poo, recently just like sweet potato - in one end, out the other!) When it is sticky we feel we have to use the wipes.
Anyway, start of with water and cotton squares, and see what works best for you.
Remember, the sink is for older babies, not newborns.
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I think we have done a bit like said before..
with disposable diapers, we have been using mainly cotton squares with water, or single-use wipes for outings.
As crj mentioned above, we have switched to cloth wipes when switched to cloth diapers (which makes sense!). I have been using them with wipe lotion or just plain water, exactly like if I were using cotton..
it is indeed easy and convenient with cloth diapers as you will than just leave the dirty cloth wipes with the dirty nappy and then wash altogether.. my daughters love them, my baby is always grabbing mine to clean herself ! and I had to make some tiny cloth wipes for my 'big' daughter's doll!!
we are also using them to clean hands, the face (there are the same but 'different' according to the function actually and don't get mixed!!)
but honestly speaking, what I find easy is really to be able to leave wipe with the nappy when cleaning the baby, so if you are using disposable diapers, you may not like it so much!
Otherwise, now that my baby is bigger (almost 20 months!!), we do also clean her directly in the sink and it is fun, and great in summer.. have 2 girls.. never had any infection sofar..
if there is poo, according to 'its consistence', I may first clean with toilet paper, and then with a wipe...
but I second the others, start with cotton and water and you'll see afterwards..
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Health-gate has the Tushies baby wipes, which also contains aloe vera & vitamin E, and are hypo-allergenic/alcohol free.
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Wow, it blows my mind how much variety we have just to clean the buby's but!!! It's very interesting and I cannot wait to experiment it... Clair, could you tell me where Health-gate is? Doubidou, I admire you for using the cloth diapers. I wanted to use cloth ones as well for ecology sake, but we just gave up on the idea as I thought it would be too difficult!
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crj
20 yrs ago
I use cloth too - even my husband and maid do not think it is difficult.
We did not use them until he was 10 lbs, as he had very skinny legs and the ones we had did not fit quite right.
We love them.
The expert on this subject is Doubibou, she does workshops on cloth nappies, etc...
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Why is everything so complicated? Why not just use JNJ unscented disposable wipes? They are cheap and widely available. It's good enough for the folks at Matilda and for many others. If you kid gets a rash, then stop. Sure, the Suzuran cotton squares are good, but after a big poo, wipes are still the best.
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tly
20 yrs ago
Gosh reading all your posts on just baby wipes makes me thankful I didn't have to go through all that fuss. How do you know if your baby will have issues with ordinary wipes if you don't try them first? I used J&J as well when he was first born then have used Watson's unscented ever since coz its the most affordable. My kid is 2 years old now and has never had an issue with the wipes. I just feel that the more worried we are and try to use the best or organic or whatever, we're just "spoiling" their skin in a way. So when do you know they are ready to use ordinary toilet paper with all the fuss with just wipes? I guess it also has to do with the fact that I don't have a helper so had to do everything myself and didn't have the time nor energy to go out of my way just to get some wipes and too cheap to buy cotton squares or anything of the sort. But might be having a girl next and hope I don't eat my words! =O hehe
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crj and doubibou, how do you get rid of the poo on the cloth diaper first?I heard if you have a handy shower then can rinse it off into the toilet bowl first. But We have only fixed shower heads. Do you think the baby has less skin problem with cloth? Or are you using it for the environment? I am curious because I am thinking of using the disposable initially but am open for adjustment as the baby grows.
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MAcaron Mania..
I am just doing a copy paste for the 'cleaning' question as I was asked the same question on another forum.. I'll come later to answer to the rest!
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how to deal with poopoo ;) THE question :)
First of all, if your baby is completely breastfed, baby's poo is very liquid, you can just ignore it and 'leave it' as it will completely come off in the washing. If you notice some stains once washed, they will come out from themselves after some other washing. If you can let them dry in the sun, even better as the sun is a natural 'whitener'.
As soon as your baby starts eating solids, the poo will be more consistent and then you have different options:
1) to use a fleece liner (or any diaper with fleece inner) - from which poo detachs very easily, it sort of rolls out actually without having to do anything special. besides, you can just hold it over the toilet and just drop it. you may read a comment from another mom there
(the review on Totsbots unbleached diaper)
2) to use disposable detachable liners which you will just drop inside the toilet.
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personnally, now with my 20-month baby, she will normally do her 'little job' on the potty, and i will clean her with toilet paper...
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Thank you very much doubibou! Sounds quite easy if I hear your explanation! Wow, 20-month already does it on the potty? Excellent. That would be a whole new world to me. I have two years until I get there, and it seems like eternity but I am sure time will fly and I will be posting about "how to potty train"!!! You must be having so much fun with a two year old. It is exciting time, isn't it?
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Health-gate is in Central. All details at:
http://www.health-gate.com/healthgate-cgi/store/store.cgi
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I agree nothing beats a bit of water and a cloth - you can buy cotton terry face cloths cheap as chips in HK - I made my own wipe size reausable wipes with fleece one side and terry the other side. V similar to the ones doubibou has. Throw them in the wash with the nappies - v v easy.
You can use a couple of drops of tea tree or lavender oil if you want but I prefer to leave it out.
Cloth nappies are much easier these days - definitely worth considering - I've really not found them any harder than disposables and my hubby loves them too.
Feel free to ask more questions if you want!!
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Hi spicegal,
At how many weeks/months did you start cloth diaper? I'm thinking of starting it later, as they say newborn will change nappies often. Which brand and where did you buy yours? Thanks.
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Hi spicegal,
At how many weeks/months did you start cloth diaper? I'm thinking of starting it later, as they say newborn will change nappies often. Which brand and where did you buy yours? Thanks.
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crj
20 yrs ago
Hi
I started at about 8-10 weeks, as that is when they finally fit my skinny baby.
We use MotherEase, OneSize StayDry.
We used hte Small Rikki Wraps at first as covers, now we use the Medium air flow.
We also have a few MotherEase all in one which are great once baby starts poo-ing less.
If I have another baby, I would get a special small newborn size for the first few weeks.
We use them all day, every day.
We use one disposable every night.
When we travel we use disposables.
I would have used Doubibou if they existed when I ordered mine!
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Hi Honeypie,
I was advised before I started to get a selection of nappies, because as crj says babies are different shapes and sizes so what suits one won't necessarily be good for another.
We started at 4 weeks but next time I'd start from newborn because I find them so easy but if it's your first I'd ease yourself in to nappies gently!! We didn't use cloth overnight until 6 weeks when we were confident with what we were doing.
We have tots bots which I love (Doubibou have them) and their fleece covers are great - especially at night. I have also just ordered some bamboozles and fluffles which are also tots nappies but not used them yet.
We have a motherease one size but find it not as absorbent as the tots, but it does fit well. Their wraps are good too.
I also use some bambino mio's but I know a lot of people don't get on with them - they work fine for us. And we have terry squares too - but the origami aspect is difficult for some people - we cheat and pad fold them and use a bambino mio wrap!
I also had a nature's baby pocket nappy but found t leaked - but a lot of people like pocket nappies as they're easy to take out and about.
Whichever kind we use we use a fleece liner inside which helps with the poo. And my LO is now 6 months and has never had a hint of nappy rash. We use cloth when out and about round town but do use disposables when we go on trips though.
Sorry if I've confused you with all those types - feel free to ask more - it is very confusing at the start and you do have to work out what suits you and your baby...
sorry macaron mania tht your post has been a bit hijacked here!
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tsuiwah and tly :
you need everything to make a world and the complication is only there to whom sees it..
but for your information, if Matilda has some JNJ wipes available in their maternity, I guess it is for the same reasons as the some other 95% of the hospitals around the world: it doesn't cost anything for JNJ to offer them.. but give them much in return....
it doesn't mean however that Matilda approves at 200% the use of wipes or would advise moms to use them 100% of the time..
at least, Matilda supported us (doubibou) promoting cloth diapers during the Real Nappy Week in their maternity so....
Same thing with Annerley's.. they do have JNJ wipes at parents' disposal in their clinic, but I am not sure whether they would recommend any mom to use them on a full-time basis .. at least Hulda suggested the use of cotton + water in the former website .. and they also support cloth diapering at 200% :)
sorry.. just my response to tsuiwah and tly :)
sophie
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Hello Mythoughts, I missed your message, sorry. I will check more closely next time I am in BtoB!!!
Thanks Clair for the Health Gate info.
Spice girl, thanks for the detail info on cloth nappies. I thought that cloth nappies fit any baby !!!
Doubibou, I agree with you about why hospitals carry certain products. I went to a prenatal class there and got lords of samples from Johnson and Johnson and the like, but they never said they recommended those products. I am sure most of the products sold in the market are very safe, but it's just that we want better than the best for our babies, isn't it??? Well, I don't even use ready-made soap for myself. I only use the ones I make from homemade coconut oil and the organic oils, and that is what I am going to use for my baby, too, so why use chemical wiper? But it is just my preference, so is any other choice that we will be making for our children....
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mm I have been using Avent wipes since day one and bubs has ever had a rash. Mind you i am careful to change her nappie oftern which would also prevent rash. If she has woken up with a poo or a very very wet nappy and i can see any kind of redness/rash i put on some cream but it's never been a real issue. When i worked i child care we used a lot of cloth nappies and i have no idea what they are like now but we use to use a nappy liner to help prevent rash.
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Hi Perthites,
Thanks for your reply. I guess changing often is also a key. Will try and learn from experience! Really excited about the whole thing even cleaning poo, haha!!!
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Macaron mania..
that's great that you are doing your own soap :)
I have everything ready to do it as well (ingredients + explanations) but never get the time to do it :( and don't think I will be able to do it before .. 2007 maybe!!! meanwhile I do have ready-to-made organic soap as well:)
so for my part I have started cloth diapering straight from birth but with my second child only. I didn't know about cloth when my first one was born (wasn't so much on the net :) and she only experienced on the late for night time.
Many moms might tell you that NB size diapers are not necessary and make cloth diapering quite expensive as they are rapidly outgrown but they are soo convenient (and cute :) ... and makes it a whole lot easy.. I didn't have that much NB sizes and used a lot of flat diapers then. However we still had some disposable diapers on hand especially for my husband who completely switched to cloth a bit later only!
There are some basic simple 'rules' to remember the main important being not to give up at the first trial if it doesn't work out as there is always one solution to a problem!!
then it isn't really more complicated than disposable .. I remember for my first child in disposable, I also had to try 36 kinds of brands and ended it with 3 different ones: one for night time, one for 'short moments' and the last one for the rest of the time.. and all this to balance between financial costs and diaper effectiveness!
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With my son I only started cloth nappies at 6 months (also hadn't really heard about modern ones...), but now we use them usually (disposables at night and going out and when it's too rainy for them to dry). Next time, I think at the newborn stage I will buy a stack of the Chinese 'nappies' avaiable at market stalls selling baby clothes - they are actually just muslin squares, and about $50 for a dozen. I will fold them and use with Tots wraps, and hopefully we will manage with those for the first few pooey weeks. I went through so many disposables at the start and I don't want to do that again. These muslins will dry in minutes, I should think, and are cheap enough to chuck if they get stained. Then when the pooing has settled down a bit I will continue with my TotsBots. I just ordered a Fluffle to try as they are supposed to be super-quick drying, which is an issue here if you don't have a dryer. If it fits ok I will get more, as we're going on holiday soon and I feel guilty leaving loads of disposable behind in a country where no one else uses them...
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Doubibou,
I was like you when I first bought all the ingredients for soap making. It took me 2yrs to actually spend time to do it. It is fairly easy if you have the right instruction, so I hope you will enjoy making it once you have some time to yourself! I remember my little brother's cloth diapers hanging in the garden (in Japan) every day. It was just a rectangular piece of cloth. But modern cloth diapers look as handy as the disposable ones. My husband and I even discussed we should try wearing disposable and cloth by ourselves to try experiencing which one feels better!! Well, I will definitelly buy one cloth one in the future and try it on my baby, see how it goes.
Geiboyi, I saw the muslin squares at BtoB. Is that what local people normally use??? Have no idea how to fold it etc, though. It is very thoughtful of you to use eco friendly diapers while you are in the country where they never use disposables. It will probably give you less things to pack as well! Enjoy the holiday!
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I think the muslim cloth diaper is a must. But I never did use them as cloth diapers as I'm no expert in folding. You find them at local wet market for less than 40-50$/dz and local department stores like Wing on or Jusco.
I use them as burp cloths and now mostly as inserts in my pocket diapers.
As for wipes, I use the small square terry wipes you can find at most wet market. They're cheap and perfect for cleaning baby bottom I think :D
After trying all the differents systems at 1st stage, I now only use pocket diapers. They suits me and my baby the best. They are easy to put on and off, easy to wash and maintain, and they dry fast! You can also use them at night as you can just customize absorbency by adding extra inserts.
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crj
20 yrs ago
I was in Sai Kung and went to the organic shop on the square with Jaspas and Cru....
They had the Seventh Generation Baby Wipes...
HKD 80 per box!
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Folding the muslins is a bit of a nightmare - still can't do it, but they do dry almost instantly in the sun. Bought the first batch from BtoB or Mothercare for a horrific price, but the local ones are dirt cheap (and the same...).
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Sorry to dig up an old thread... but Geiboyi, just one thing.. if you are not at ease with folding flat nappies, for a newborn you may as well just put one booster inside a NB wrap.. nothing to fold, very easy.. and shouldn't take much much longer to dry..
cheaper even I guess and you would continue to use them when your baby grows
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